Video Production Resources: Online Production Assistant Course

Blake Barnett of BLARE Media interviews Robin Kincade about her online production assistant course.

PA Course Website: https://www.kincadeproductions.com/

Blake’s Website: https://blaremedia.net/

 

Blake Barnett:

Hello everybody. We’re here today with Robin Kincade. How’s it going, Robin?

Robin Kincade:
Going great Blake. How are you doing?

Blake Barnett:
Doing good. Doing good. Hey, it’s Friday.

Robin Kincade:
Thanks for having me. It’s a great way to end the week.

Blake Barnett:

Yeah. Yeah, for sure. I love having you on our show. Well just not really show straight, straight up interview.

Blake Barnett:
What’s your take on education? Do we need it? Do we need a college degree to get in?

Robin Kincade:

You have to have an education. You cannot, you cannot be in this business without some sort of education. So what does that mean? I don’t have a car. I literally have a high school diploma. I graduated in three years. I hated school so much. I didn’t even get an AA in, in college, but what I did do is once I, I got into the business and I saw what I needed to learn. I went to night school. I took film classes, you know, and I still do. I’m still learning. I never, that never ended. I just find my education where I need it. I don’t need to pay 150 $250,000 to find the education I need. And I think a really good example of that as Quentin Tarantino, Quentin Tarantino got thrown out of school at 15 because he, yeah, he, he stole a book from Tarjay from target, Holy book, and him got thrown. He got thrown out of school. And so what he ended up doing was writing scripts and checking in with his local theater people and just he educated himself all the way up to being a great director.

Blake Barnett:

Well, I think that’s the bottom line really is. It’s just, you need to get education from somewhere. You know, it doesn’t have to be a four year university type place, but you need to get, you need to be educated.

Robin Kincade:

And it really doesn’t end. Once you start educating your mind, the doors just keep flying open and you and your mind gets used to learning. So for me, who hated school, I am a constant learner. I just learned how to speak Italian [inaudible] mind. I know that’s what everybody says, but I took me five years and I learned how to speak Italian. And I mean, that’s what happens is your mind just goes, but you have to, you have to have the passion to be in the business and you have to, you have to continually make yourself better and grow. And I think that’s a great, that’s a great career.

Blake Barnett:

I think that you like to learn, but you just didn’t like the structure of the school system. And I didn’t, I didn’t either. I think our school systems is all it kind of off topic here, but I just think our school students are somewhat broken and they, and like students like yourself and myself, like it just wasn’t entertaining or like there’s an interest level. This is like way I would learn more on my own than I would want to learn in school and

Robin Kincade:

Tactile learner tactile. If I can touch it, I can learn it. The problem with school is I was great in art straight A’s and art reward in art. Right. I got some big award in art. If I could touch it, I could do it. If you sent me at a desk and asked me to read it, I just didn’t have the thing. So they don’t really, they don’t really look at kids as individuals. They just put them in the, in these places.

Blake Barnett:

Well, you need to make it exciting and like a like Elan Musk and you make it well, like video games. And I agree with that to a certain extent, like you need to, you need to make the teachers should be excited to teach for one. And maybe that’s, you know, somebody with PE, but it has to be exciting. You want to be exciting, you know, if you’re just gonna be monotone, like nobody wants to, that reminds me, like school reminds me of like, when I worked for more of a government job and have all these trainings and they’re just monotone on PowerPoint that’s and that’s like, no one learns that way. It’s like, no, one’s excited. You’re just like, thanks for reading me this PowerPoint slide and most monotone and Oh yeah. And so that was school for me kind of thing. It just wasn’t exciting. I mean, they’ll be wrong. I had some great teachers, but also had some teachers that really just didn’t care to be there. And you can tell, and it shows,

Robin Kincade:

You know, that’s the thing about this course is so I’ve seen some other courses and that’s exactly what they do. Like they have some voice, they have a little music, they have a guy come out and then it’s all just graphics and the head shot of the guy. Right? Yeah. So what we decided to do is we, I went out and interviewed over 20 professionals in the field and I put them in this course. So they’re going to hear from real producers and directors and location Scouts and craft services, people and art directors and other PAs, and we, and they talk directly to these guys. So it not only is the course got all of this information, but it’s got this kind of textural realness to it because these people are giving, they’re giving their opinions. Like, what do you put on your resume? What do you think you put on your resume to get into the film industry? If you have no education, if you’re new and you’re just, you have no experience in the industry and you’re making your resume, what job could you put down there that you did that the producer will go, Oh, bring that person on. And it’s the service industry job?

Blake Barnett:

Well, because they’re typically more of like a hustler and they have a good attitude, I would say kind of thing. And so I come from that background too. I mean, while I was in college, I was, I was a waiter. I was probably waiting for like 20 years. I’m a great waitress. I wasn’t talking points, you know, I hit my limits and then I just was like, I just thought, like, I need to get, I need to leave. I’m not, I’m not, I’m not good at this industry anymore just because you get burnt out, you got it towards the end. But but yeah, that’s how I got, you know, you know, through, in high school I had service industry jobs and then in college had certain industry jobs.

Robin Kincade:

That’s what they’re looking for. They’re looking for people that know how to put groups of people together, feed them, you know, keep them happy service industry. People are like that. They do that naturally. I was a waitress when I was younger and I was a really good waitress and I, I really get it. So there’s a ton of, of jobs that will get you into this industry. They want to see what you’re doing.

Blake Barnett: Where did you work?

Robin Kincade:

Oh, I worked in Nevada. I worked at the Mendon in, in Mindan Nevada. I worked at the nugget and Carson CNO or Carson city. And I worked at the MGM in Reno. I worked up in Eureka at the at a number of places. I mean, you know, I was a waitress for a really long time. Sure. From 13 to when I got into the lumber mill, I was 10 years old. My dad had a restaurant.

Blake Barnett:

Well, okay. I mean, I mean, I was like, man, cause I remember I wanted to work when I was 16 and my mom wouldn’t let me work. And so I got my driver’s license. I’ll actually, no, I was 15 when I wanted to work. And she said, no. And then soon as I got my driver’s license, she’s like, yeah, you can wear it like that. I can take it. She’s like not just for gas, money, insurance and stuff. So I started working on 16, but yeah, I was always working in, you know, a side hustle of some sort as a kid.

Robin Kincade:

Yeah. Same here, same here. And I think that B speaks to our business. Right? I mean, we kind of do what we love. So if you want to do what you love and you love film and you love storytelling or you love teamwork, or you love a project oriented based, you know, things, this industry can be a lot of fun.

Blake Barnett:

Well, you’re talking about your course and I’d like to where you’re going, but about all the interviews and whatnot you know, from the people actually in the industry. Cause I feel like when you go to school, you’re not really getting that. You’re getting like stuff that concepts and stuff like how you should do. Like you’re getting like real information from real people in the industry. So, but the next question along those lines is how has this course would help them, you know, break into the industry.

Robin Kincade:

This course actually gives them the step by step, no matter what little town they’re in of how to break
in, how to actually find their clients, how to approach the clients. When the client finally does call it, say you get a call, what to get out of the client, how to, how to speak to that client, what information you’re going to need to do the job, how to approach the job, what to take to the job, who to check in with how to park the very first day. It’s really going to take the stress off your first day. Like big time. Sure. Number one. And and then how, how to move forward. How to recognize what department you like, how to get into that department, how to, how to give, find mentors. What is a mentor? All of those things, the course gives them. And not just me. I mean, that’s,

Blake Barnett:

I’m going to take your course because I need a new mentor. And so you do it.

Robin Kincade:
It’ll be fun. You never know you could buy it them and give it to some kid, you know?

Blake Barnett:

Oh yeah. Okay. Yeah, no, I thought about that and be kind of good if I have, if I come across a PA that really wants to, wants to get in, I’ve definitely liked that

Robin Kincade:
You don’t want to mentor your past mentoring day.

Blake Barnett:

I referred you to someone this morning, actually. Yeah. Someone emailed us and, and emailed back like, yeah, thanks for the information. I’m like, Oh, I’m actually interviewing with Robin in 30 minutes. And she’s a great resource for getting the impression there was, it was a as a, her, she was specifically looking to be a production assistant out of college and somebody probably the, a great resource. You should go her way in New York city. Which is well, what’s your website. Yeah. I don’t think we’ve even said that yet. Correct productions. Yeah.

Robin Kincade:

Yeah. Kincadeproductions.com. And I also have I as a personal website, too. Robinkincade.com so they can see my, what I, what I, who I am in the business. So yeah, I mean, I have to say that I’m really excited Blake. Cause I actually think this course is going to make a difference for opening up the doors to a bunch of people who would have never been able to really be in the business before. And I think they’re going to be able to be in the business now. And for me, that’s something that I can leave because I would have never been in this business. If somebody hadn’t mentored

Blake Barnett:
You ready for the next question? Yeah. Let’s see what shows up this way. How much time?

Robin Kincade:

Okay. How much does it cost? So we really made it affordable. The whole course is a hundred dollars $99 $99 course. You can’t afford that. We made it. So you could buy each course for 24 99. So the whole series is 99 99. Okay. But let’s say you’re like really strapped. I don’t know why would it be strapped right now? But let’s say that’s two.

Robin Kincade:

You can buy the each course for $24.99. And if you really like the first course, we’ll, we’ll adjust the price if you buy the series after the first course.

Robin Kincade:

I want people to have this, like we’re serious about this. This is not something we’re trying to get rich off of. We really want people.

Blake Barnett:

I mean, it’s super reasonable. You’re paying like a, like a little over a dollar each for each of the, you know, I don’t even, I don’t know the format I’ve haven’t I, I, I will. I went to your website and I looked at some, you get some interviews with interesting. And I, I mean, like I’m not looking to be a precious, there’s no way I’m interested in this sports and see some of these. And so, and I, and I haven’t seen them, but how long you said there’s 74

Robin Kincade:

Videos in this whole course, like what’s the length? Like how many, how many hours of footage is this? So, because it’s really hard to watch anything over 10 minutes anymore. At least for me, we need each one. It’s between two and nine minutes every day. Yeah. So it’s digestible. It’s easy to watch. It’s it’s it’s got some graphics, a little music, you know, it’s, it’s not just the talking head. What’s the typical timeline for when you have these students, are people interested from all walks of life? What’s the kind of timeline they typically take to complete your course. I mean, that’s a lot of videos to watch and you want to say two months, two months. And I think you’re going to go back and watch some more than others, you know, because some of them have some information that you don’t really understand and others do.

Robin Kincade:

Some are going to be some that you’re not that interested in, but you still kind of need the year. So for instance, we talk a little bit about safety, about your car. Your car is now going to become your office and you think, Oh, well, that’s just simple. I just going to drive around and do my job. Well, your cars be kind of become your office is no longer your car. And there’s a mindset to that that you have to really understand. And what does that mean? And we go through all that stuff. So, you know, there’s a lot of safety stuff. There’s a lot of really nuance about how to be on a crew and what not to do and what to do both. Okay. Last question. So we, we’re talking about all these videos and LA what’s the format. You stream for a year.

Robin Kincade:

So if you buy the series, you get it for a year. If you buy each course, I think it’s a three months for each course, three months. If you buy each course individually for $24.99, you can stream it for three months. Okay. Okay.

Blake Barnett:
Nice, good deal. Well, Robin, so if I want to get the scores, how am I going to hold you?

Robin Kincade:

So the best way is to go straight to the website, which is at www.kincadeproductions.com. And you can see us right there. And you can even, there’s a whole bunch of stuff to look at on the website. The website has all kinds of great information, like how to wrap a cable correctly and all kinds of things. So check out my website and, and see if you want to maybe take a chance in director, destiny, www.Kincadeproductions.com, everyone, go check it out. They should joining us. Thanks for having me.

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